I Heard This Rumor... - Guild Wars Forums

senorbender · Mar 26, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

... that some part of GW will be pay to play. You can run around by yourself and kill all the stuff you want for free, but if you want to do missions with chums/guildmates... you have to pay a fee. Please confirm this as myth or truth.

Lews · Mar 26, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25

... No comment ... Oh, but too make this post long enough, no, its a lie.

Lunarhound · Mar 26, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28

What you probably heard was some sort of bizarre twisting of the way Chapters work. Chapters are expansions, released once or twice a year, that will add new areas, skills, missions and quests to the game. You'll need to pay for those, but you don't have to buy them and you can continue to play with all of your friends in the non-expansion areas. There is no "pay to play" system, though. There are Alpha testers, people who've been following the game's development for years, and even ArenaNet staff (should they choose to speak up) who can confirm this for you. Go read the official Guild Wars FAQ. No fee to play. Ever.

senorbender · Mar 26, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Absolutely positive? I've heard from a manager at GameStop and an assistant manager at EBGames that there's something going on with a p2p requirement for certain segment of the game.

bouncingsoulx · Mar 26, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31

uh most of the time thoes people really don't know what they're talking about...

i remember one day i went in because a game just came out and i wanted to purchase it and the one employee never even herd of it... even though it was a semi-popular game being released

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is that just the beta weekend events or something else?

Loviatar · Mar 26, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31

those know nothings

check the official GW site

NO PAY TO PLAY

FROM THEM
Will there be a subscription fee for Guild Wars? Are there any other fees, such as for patches or updates?

There will not be a subscription fee of any kind, anywhere in the world and there are no hidden fees. You will not have to pay for the streaming updates that will take place on a regular basis, nor for additional content that we will provide between the chapters of Guild Wars.

EDIT

BETA ONLY PLUS 1 DAY EARLY FOR RETAIL

Ensign · Mar 26, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34

You'll probably have to ebay some items if you want to be competitive but otherwise no, you just pay for the game up front.

Peace,
-CxE

Scaper-X · Mar 26, 2005, 01:55 AM // 01:55

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Originally Posted by senorbender

Please confirm this as myth or truth.

Merely a rumor. An untruth (and one often fabricated by WoW fans).

...that is if the previous posts weren't hint enough.
-- Scaper-X

bouncingsoulx · Mar 26, 2005, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Originally Posted by Ensign

You'll probably have to ebay some items if you want to be competitive but otherwise no, you just pay for the game up front.

Peace,
-CxE

i thought that it was merly based on skill

Kirbie · Mar 26, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Lunarhound

but you don't have to buy them and you can continue to play with all of your friends in the non-expansion areas.

allow me to be little more precise...
you will be able to play with all of your friends "competitively" in non-expansion area.
people with expansions may have more options...but has no advantage over your character(if you choose not to buy expansions). so you can play competitively with other people who has expansions...hence making "every guildwars family" fair and happy

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 02:15 AM // 02:15

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Originally Posted by senorbender

... that some part of GW will be pay to play. You can run around by yourself and kill all the stuff you want for free, but if you want to do missions with chums/guildmates... you have to pay a fee. Please confirm this as myth or truth.

Its BS. Don't listen to rumors. It is on the back of the box too.

Loviatar · Mar 26, 2005, 02:27 AM // 02:27

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Originally Posted by bouncingsoulx

i thought that it was merly based on skill

mostly skill but then again everybody who is willing to put in a bit of time buying or trading can come very close to the top stuff

you will not find the uber sword of almighty smiting kills in one hit

and the armor of unbelieveable stats

the weapons have item modifiers like hilts but then again you can get them also and they add a few percent to an item and usually a penalty at the same time

the difference is such that a good sklled person with good equipment will beat a average person with better equipment

Aria · Mar 26, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30

I hate rumors..

To senorbender, those people were also the same people who listed at least three different release dates for GW months before the official date was announced. At one time, each vendor had a different release date when ANet's official say was "first quarter of 2005."

Unless it's on www.guildwars.com, or in a post made by Gaile or Alex Weekes, or a personal interview with the devs -- with precise quotes from a source that you actually know, mind you -- you can pretty much fling it over a cliff.

However, like others have said, you can run around together all you want if both you and your friend have copies. But if you don't have the expansion, and your friend does, naturally, you won't have access to the expansion areas, and won't be able to play with your friend. That's expected and normal.

Kiwi · Mar 26, 2005, 02:54 AM // 02:54

It's a rumor, nothing else.

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Originally Posted by Aria

I hate rumors..

To senorbender, those people were also the same people who listed at least three different release dates for GW months before the official date was announced. At one time, each vendor had a different release date when ANet's official say was "first quarter of 2005."

Unless it's on www.guildwars.com, or in a post made by Gaile or Alex Weekes, or a personal interview with the devs -- with precise quotes from a source that you actually know, mind you -- you can pretty much fling it over a cliff.

However, like others have said, you can run around together all you want if both you and your friend have copies. But if you don't have the expansion, and your friend does, naturally, you won't have access to the expansion areas, and won't be able to play with your friend. That's expected and normal.

Yes, and/or if I said it.

Duality · Mar 26, 2005, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by Aria

However, like others have said, you can run around together all you want if both you and your friend have copies. But if you don't have the expansion, and your friend does, naturally, you won't have access to the expansion areas, and won't be able to play with your friend. That's expected and normal.

er...if you have regular GW, and your friend has GW + expansion 1, you CAN still play with your friend. you can only play with him in the areas you both have, IE: regular GW.

Darkmane · Mar 26, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56

You know I chock up this kind of filthy false implications to people that are soo ignorant- they have to spread their ignorace to other people to make themselves feel smarter. Agreed - maybe he did confuse chapters with the game itself. There is no pay to play. If you want to explore extra chapters you will need to buy those just like buying catacombs for DAOC or like Scars of Velious for EQ I. But at least there is no monthly fee!

I so cannot wait for this game to come out.. its just not happening fast enough for me.

Nova · Mar 26, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

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Originally Posted by Duality

er...if you have regular GW, and your friend has GW + expansion 1, you CAN still play with your friend. you can only play with him in the areas you both have, IE: regular GW.

Yes, when expansions are released they will allow you top play together. Your friend will just not get the benefits. Like if there is a new zone or profession or race? He/she will not be able to make that race or profession of character or go into that new zone with you. If you have played EverQuest then its like that. That is what I have read in the FAQs on the website. www.guildwars.com

Gaile Gray · Mar 26, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Nothing will be pay-to-play. The explanations here are accurate (except Ensign's bizarre comment

). You can purchase chapters, or not, as you wish. You'll be able to continue to play, as you desire. We hope you'll support the continued development of the game, but we're not going to add advertising, or limit access to areas, or require payment for certain items, or ask you to insert a quarter to play another round.

Aria · Mar 26, 2005, 05:49 AM // 05:49

It's Gaile!

I was wondering what happened to you.

I was telling Scapes earlier that you know ANet spoils us rotten when I actually notice Gaile's absence on the various forums when she doesn't post for a few days. Subconsciously.

It scares me quite a bit that I noticed.. How much of a forum lurker AM I?!

Davion · Mar 26, 2005, 05:59 AM // 05:59

There are times (like this) I wish it could be posted on a huge banner in bold print,in very public view, saying that, so as to avoid the rumor mill.
That being said,.....

umm lurker? hehe no more than the average person. (lurk 2/3 post 1/3) maybe?

Mar 26, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24	#1
senorbender Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005	I Heard This Rumor... ... that some part of GW will be pay to play. You can run around by yourself and kill all the stuff you want for free, but if you want to do missions with chums/guildmates... you have to pay a fee. Please confirm this as myth or truth.

Mar 26, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28	#3
Lunarhound Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005	What you probably heard was some sort of bizarre twisting of the way Chapters work. Chapters are expansions, released once or twice a year, that will add new areas, skills, missions and quests to the game. You'll need to pay for those, but you don't have to buy them and you can continue to play with all of your friends in the non-expansion areas. There is no "pay to play" system, though. There are Alpha testers, people who've been following the game's development for years, and even ArenaNet staff (should they choose to speak up) who can confirm this for you. Go read the official Guild Wars FAQ. No fee to play. Ever. Last edited by Lunarhound; Mar 26, 2005 at 01:31 AM // 01:31..

Mar 26, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31	#6
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	those know nothings check the official GW site NO PAY TO PLAY FROM THEM Will there be a subscription fee for Guild Wars? Are there any other fees, such as for patches or updates? There will not be a subscription fee of any kind, anywhere in the world and there are no hidden fees. You will not have to pay for the streaming updates that will take place on a regular basis, nor for additional content that we will provide between the chapters of Guild Wars. EDIT BETA ONLY PLUS 1 DAY EARLY FOR RETAIL Last edited by Loviatar; Mar 26, 2005 at 01:37 AM // 01:37..

Mar 26, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34	#7
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	You'll probably have to ebay some items if you want to be competitive but otherwise no, you just pay for the game up front. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Mar 26, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45	#18
Gaile Gray ArenaNet Join Date: Feb 2005	Nothing will be pay-to-play. The explanations here are accurate (except Ensign's bizarre comment ). You can purchase chapters, or not, as you wish. You'll be able to continue to play, as you desire. We hope you'll support the continued development of the game, but we're not going to add advertising, or limit access to areas, or require payment for certain items, or ask you to insert a quarter to play another round. __________________ Gaile Gray Support Liaison ArenaNet

Mar 26, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25	#2
Lews Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Washington Profession: R/E	... No comment ... Oh, but too make this post long enough, no, its a lie.

Mar 26, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#13
Aria Sig Fairy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Once upon a time..	I hate rumors.. To senorbender, those people were also the same people who listed at least three different release dates for GW months before the official date was announced. At one time, each vendor had a different release date when ANet's official say was "first quarter of 2005." Unless it's on www.guildwars.com, or in a post made by Gaile or Alex Weekes, or a personal interview with the devs -- with precise quotes from a source that you actually know, mind you -- you can pretty much fling it over a cliff. However, like others have said, you can run around together all you want if both you and your friend have copies. But if you don't have the expansion, and your friend does, naturally, you won't have access to the expansion areas, and won't be able to play with your friend. That's expected and normal.

Mar 26, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56	#16
Darkmane Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005	You know I chock up this kind of filthy false implications to people that are soo ignorant- they have to spread their ignorace to other people to make themselves feel smarter. Agreed - maybe he did confuse chapters with the game itself. There is no pay to play. If you want to explore extra chapters you will need to buy those just like buying catacombs for DAOC or like Scars of Velious for EQ I. But at least there is no monthly fee! I so cannot wait for this game to come out.. its just not happening fast enough for me.

Mar 26, 2005, 05:49 AM // 05:49	#19
Aria Sig Fairy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Once upon a time..	It's Gaile! I was wondering what happened to you. I was telling Scapes earlier that you know ANet spoils us rotten when I actually notice Gaile's absence on the various forums when she doesn't post for a few days. Subconsciously. It scares me quite a bit that I noticed.. How much of a forum lurker AM I?!

Mar 26, 2005, 05:59 AM // 05:59	#20
Davion Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: wherever the winds take me Profession: R/Mo	There are times (like this) I wish it could be posted on a huge banner in bold print,in very public view, saying that, so as to avoid the rumor mill. That being said,..... umm lurker? hehe no more than the average person. (lurk 2/3 post 1/3) maybe?